You have no idea
So, when you live in a bit of a self-dug cave (no Paleo pun intended, seriously), you tend to miss "goings-on" in various communities. Lately, for me, it's been a circle of work/baby/work/sleep. Rinse, repeat. I actually had a pretty cool post of random news snippets, sound bites, and what-not, but this one had to happen.
I haven't had the luxury of free time, casual conversation, and most importantly, time to coach at my favorite kick-ass strength & conditioning facility, Crossfit Lethbridge. But wow did I ever have an eye opener yesterday. I had a great time coaching 11 & 12, but the convo after was like being punched in the groin. Let me backtrack, and paint a wee picture.
A few weeks back a buddy of mine asked me to look into something called Body By Visalus. (Just to be clear, I'm only linking Jimmy's article. No way in fuck am I linking anything related to the actual company. I'll explain shortly.)
Apparently, a family member was using it, and he wanted to know if was legit or not. I had never heard of it (yes, that would be the rock I live under), so I did some digging. And some digging. And some digging.
My bullshit radar goes off REALLY fast when it take me more than a few clicky-clicks to find info on a product; I have a boatload of clients taking a LOT of various supplements, and while I love to be a one-man science experiment, I can't test everything at once. So, I bust out my Google-Fu, and dig up a nutrition facts label and ingredient list. BOTH are essential, for the record.
Looking for info on the "Body by Vi" protein shake led me to a plethora of slick MLM (multi-level-marketing) websites that made grandiose claims on nutritional quality, weight loss benefits, and cutting edge ingredients. Only, actually finding a list is next to impossible. Grrrr.
When I popped various keywords into Google, I came up with a bunch of spin-off sites aimed at EXACTLY what I was trying to do---find more info. If you type in "scam" with Body by Vi, you get a bunch of pages that purposely try to sway your opinion that in fact it is NOT a scam. It is highly irritating and mind-numbing. By this time, my bullshit radar was hitting DEFCON-1. Yeah, that bad. And I hadn't even seen the damn ingredients yet.
Enter Jimmy Moore, the charismatic host of Livin' La Vida Low Carb. *HE* dug up some solid info on what this shight was all about, and had a snazzy ingredient list post. If you didn't click the first Body by Vi link, check it HERE. Since Jimmy has done such an excellent job of tearing apart the product itself, I don't have a need to. Soy protein isolate and Fibersol?
Jackie wants to know.
Now that the picture has been painted, enter my beef: Where it's being pushed.
In my home. In my garden. In my temple of solitude. In my Valhalla of rubber flooring, dusty chalk, harbor of C2s, and slowly swaying rings. I know, I get a little emotional about it. And then I get mad.
Once again, you have no idea how much
SO this isn't to "name names" or call folks out, but how the F*CK can anyone with even a string of moral integrity pitch this stuff INSIDE a Crossfit box? Soy protein isolate combined with a highly engineered digestion resistant form of corn. Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot, hombre... My mind was blown yesterday. As I type, I'm literally shaking my head still.
I *get* the fact that the typical John-Q-Public would fall for this; it makes sense. Slick advertising, pseudo-science, and best of all, convenience. Who needs real food, all the time it takes to MAKE real food, and hey, there's like 30 servings of veggies AND you'll feel full all goddamn day so you only have to eat, like, once!!! People buy that shit, they eat it up. I get it.
But Crossfit athletes? And more importantly, established Crossfit athletes selling this to members? THAT, in my mind, is criminal.
I've been fortunate that I've been sheltered financially, if you will, by a full time gig as a firefighter; this hasn't given me piles of cash to roll around in, but enough for me to NOT have money as my motivation for either starting my business, coaching, or doing any nutritional or functional lab consulting. I feel it's ESSENTIAL to deliver a quality product, first and foremost. Money is a secondary item. I like this view, as money fucks everything up.
When folks have money as the FIRST priority, well, we end up with a MLM product like BBV, and people willing to sell it, even though they KNOW it will do harm. This, to me is unthinkable on an impressionable demographic: The New Crossfit Client. These folks WANT to be lean, they WANT to be strong, they WANT performance. Someone who is established and has the physique (that has NOT been built by Vi!!) pushing this stuff is going to leave an impression---and take money for a sub-par product that will NOT lead to results.
Let's be clear on two things before I sign off---I have no financial stake in this, and this is NOT being sold inside Crossfit Lethbridge. This product is not "stealing" from me, and the owners of CFLA would smash folks like small bugs if they tried to sell this to our clients. I can smash hard for a skinny guy, but I know a certain chica that reminds me of someone. I'm just sayin'. As far as financially for me, this product would probably fuck enough people up metabolically that I could have a lifetime of clients to test diagnostically. I don't need, or want, that. What I find offensive is the morals of the folks selling this, and where it's happening.
Let the comments roll.
Bill · 675 weeks ago
Thank you
Not a Body By Vi Rep · 675 weeks ago
Poly · 675 weeks ago
bill · 675 weeks ago
Heather G · 675 weeks ago
Sean · 675 weeks ago
Getting fit and healthy is a 2 step process!
1.) Stop eating shit
2.) Get your ass off the damn couch
It has nothing to do with confidence, it takes making a decision and following through, a lifestyle change. Stay fat and die or start doing something and live, pretty easy decision to me. There doesn't have to be anything extreme about working out if you balance your diet with your "preferred" type of exercise things will work out. Why even talk about silly bullshit supplements?
kareem · 674 weeks ago
Then again, when you're a MLM company making $230M a year, you've got a lot of people invested in your success: http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/13/top-domains-visalus-dishes-out-825k-to-buy-challenge-com-vi-com/
Sad.
joelindley 1p · 673 weeks ago
Put "news" someplace in your email title so I won't miss it, please! My main site is http://CravingSugar.net and the news channel is http://CravingSugar.net/news/
Thanks and hope to hear from you...
...Joe Lindley...
Steph · 664 weeks ago
Mike 58p · 664 weeks ago
Points addressed:
"I find it interesting that Bill seems to be the only one that is speaking respectfully."
I have no time, patience, or respect for purposeful ignorance. And especially for cognitive dissonance regarding what is being sold, and the moral intentions, or lack thereof, behind it.
"He's right about the obesity problem that we have in America, and that Visalus has helped a lot of people get healthy."
I 100% agree that there's an obesity problem; one of the (many) reasons is lack of proper education regarding food. Has Visalus helped people lose weight? Sure. A hypocaloric, nutrient devoid diet will do that. Has it helped people get HEALTHY? I'd argue, beyond loss of adipose and potential return of insulin sensitivity, that is hasn't. In fact, it's probably done more harm than good in the fact folks are still ignorant about nutrition, and now dependent on Visalus products. Ahh, but THAT'S the key behind billion dollar MLM companies, isn't it?
"The general population is not getting off their couch and they are eating crap all day long. If a product like Vi can help them turn this around, I would think a fitness professional would be all for it."
Hardly! That's what's called a fucking shortcut, and that's more than half the reason people end up in the situation they are in---not willing to put forth the effort. Day-um, I'll just drink this shake and eat this cookie. To hell with hard work and trying to re-educate myself about real food.
"Bill is also right in saying as a person gets in better shape and starts feeling better about themselves, they are more willing to go to the effort of fixing better food."
Once again, no-go. If a shortcut is "working" (I use that term sarcastically), why the hell would someone with a lack of motivation or drive do anything more? This goes straight back to what the company wants---sheep that just barely have enough energy to open their wallets, for more magic soy mix.
"All I'm saying is that you might ease up a little. Most times it's these kinds of attitudes that keep overweight people out of the gym. People that are 50, 75, or even a 100lbs overweight, feel bad enough about themselves. They don't need people telling them how fat and lazy they are."
No. There will be no "easing up". There will be no room for sub-par nutrition, at least in my circle. I have treated/coached/helped hundreds of clients---without the use of a manufactured frankenfood. Attitudes like mine do not keep people out of any gym...people keep themselves out of the gym. The "acceptance" of shit food, acceptance that being morbidly obese is "normal", the naive, helpless, sheep-like lackadaisical attitude of the general public, and the companies that enable and empower this attitude, is what keeps people out of the gym.
And dependent on brutally nutrient devoid, profit-driven products like Visalus.
End Point: I have bigger issues with the folks selling it in "my little box", versus peddling it to soccer moms and desk jockeys, because, up until recently, there was a pretty strong ethic behind proper education. Unfortunately, some folks seem to care about chasing dollars than creating success....with clients. THAT'S who this post was intended to.
Jesse · 663 weeks ago
Joe · 658 weeks ago
Did you steal your profile pic from this guy..... .http://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=49154
RLF · 639 weeks ago
Mary · 630 weeks ago
I already lost 11 pounds in 1 month just changing the way I eat, I doing 30 - 45 minutes of exercise at home, without having to spend any money and believe me eating real food is better than drinking one shake